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lauder |
Australia NPDP
Mar 24 2012, 4:42 AM EDT
Hello, i'm a new first year at the University of Newcastle studying diagnostic radiography. I've been hearing a lot of doom and gloom from third years about how it's getting extremely hard to find PDY positions, and they mentioned something about this being due to the introduction of NPDP meaning there's less PDY positions for them. By the time I graduate, the end of 2014/start of 2015, the NPDP will become compulsory and will replace the PDY. Apparently because of this, by the time I graduate, will it mean it is a lot easier to secure a NPDP position vs. the current graduate who is trying to secure a PDY? All I want to know is how hard will it be for me to become AIR accredited/how hard will it be for me to secure that NPDP year when I graduate. Do uni marks/which uni you graduated from matter? I'm aiming for a distinction average to better my chances for NPDP, but will a graduate from say, University of Sydney/QUT be taken into more consideration than a Newcastle Uni student? Thanks in advance Do you find this valuable?
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Gajaal |
1. RE: Australia NPDP
Mar 25 2012, 6:21 PM EDT
Greetings LauderFollow this link and you may find many of the answers you seek. <http://www.air.asn.au/cms_files/07_ClinicalTraining/npdp_guide_dec2011.pdf> Your other step should be to make enquiries at University of Newcastle to discover if they are a "self assessing body". Re: this statement from the NPDP Guide "Graduates of some AIR accredited professional entry programmes receive the Validated Statement of Accreditation. In these cases, the AIR has reviewed the university programme and determined that graduates meet the expectations described in the AIR Competency Based Standards. Graduates of these programmes are not required to complete the NPDP." I hope this helps. Regards Gary Allbutt Do you find this valuable? |
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lauder |
2. RE: Australia NPDP
Mar 25 2012, 11:22 PM EDT
Thanks Gary, hey I was just wondering, how do you think the current job market in radiography is so far? Is a new graduate (like me in 3 years time) able to find work relatively easy? Is the competition hard, or is there still lots of opportunity to find permanent full time work?Thank you Do you find this valuable? |
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Gajaal |
3. RE: Australia NPDP
Mar 26 2012, 3:00 AM EDT
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If you apply yourself, attend conferences, develop your reputation for consistent good work, be co-operative......... You know, the usual mantra.There are no guarantees however. I won the award for "Highest Marks Practical Assessment" in my third and final year, yet I have been seeking a fulltime permanent role for over 2 years now. But I have to say I'm 58 and been doing This, Radiography, in one form or another, for over 35 years. You probably don't have age as a barrier. Start now and find out as much about the market as you can and all your options in respect of the various Modalities and their proportions in the industry. Find which are the most highly regarded Radiographic Centres of Excellence at which you may undertake your clinical placements. For that you might have to travel interstate. I would also suggest you join the AIR. Student Membership is only $22.00 per year. Log on and findout what the AIR is all about. As a student I trained at Geelong Hospital and we had 100% membership in that department, Students as well as Qualified. Car pooled to meetings and weekend seminars. In fact I would consider that experience even more important now than then as so much of your time as students is spent away from the Clinical Environment where I was employed fulltime as an "apprentice" of sorts, absorbing the culture and work practices on a daily basis, studying at night and submitting assignments. Check SEEK & MYCAREER etc see where the needs are in the industry. Sonography seems to be the most popular flavour currently at something like 70 to 80% of adds, and it is offering some pretty significant salaries. Or may be Education & Training or Administration, so back to school. There's no simple answer I'm affraid, but the fact that you have asked these questions is huge. Best wishes for your future. Gary Allbutt 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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lauder |
4. RE: Australia NPDP
Mar 26 2012, 6:48 AM EDT
Thank you for your detailed response. Wow this worries me.. because you're 58 and been in the industry for over 35 years, shouldn't that make you highly employable as employers are looking for people with experience? Even with your extreme level of experience, how come it's taking you so long to find full time permanent work?I know getting into ultrasound is ridiculously difficult due to the fact that you need to secure a hospital to train you first (which is harder than finding an NPDP position now)! Is this just for the metropolitan areas of Melbourne though, because I don't know how the job market for QLD/NSW graduates are. I'm scared about the job prospects of the radiography industry... by the time I graduate, maybe it will be almost impossible for me to find a job in my preferred location, let alone specialise in ultrasound (which is my dream goal).... I'm only in my first year so i'm thinking of transferring to optometry. By the way do you know much about the different University's radiography programs? Like I hear from gossip that University of Sydney and University of South Australia students aren't that experienced and employers don't really like them that much. Do you find this valuable? |
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Gajaal |
5. RE: Australia NPDP
Mar 26 2012, 5:11 PM EDT
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PART #1Positions of the level I could fulfill come up rarely, as the Career Structure fills from the top down. While public organisations are required to advertise Positions, they often have valid candidates within and loyalty to those staff becomes a component of the selection criteria. Put another way, "the Devil You Know". I, and others, also believe that Ageism is a component. The Kids in late secondary school have problems. What can they choose that gives them a good chance to enter into the study programme they want, let alone get a job in that field once qualified. Old codgers like me had a dream run by comparison. I was even payed to be a student, and the Course fees were very low. I wont comment in open forum on the efficacy of this or that universitie's Medical Imaging schools. However, the Industry, the clinical placement centres, certainly have recieved a wide range of students in terms of their preparedness and competence to perform examinations. Interestingly, I have found that those least prepared have often had unrealistic levels of confidence in their own abilities and have baulked at the need to be supervised. I note also that the Academic Golden students are not necessarily the top practitioners of the Art of Radiography.............................................. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Gajaal |
6. RE: Australia NPDP
Mar 26 2012, 5:24 PM EDT
PART #2While Medical Imaging is an Applied Science and all subjects are important, I consider Anatomy and Radiographic Positioning THE CORE subjects, along with Radiographic Imaging Systems and Technology. Add to this a consistant approach to each and every examination from receipt of the Referral to sending the resultant images. In "The Good Radiographer— Spectrum October 2008" I drew parallels with the Checklists employed flying aircraft. Do you stay or do you go. (Google Jimmy Durante) You have to answer tha for yourself whether Medical Imaging is going to be fulfilling for you. Does it motivate you to a level where your competence will stand out and you become one of the Chosen. Or do you move on. There are also direct entry courses to Sonography eg: the Australian School of Medical Imaging (ASMI). I wish you well and I, for one, would be sorry to lose your enquiring mind from the Profession. Kind regards Gary Allbutt 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Grace91 |
7. RE: Australia NPDP
Oct 23 2012, 5:55 AM EDT
Hey there.I'm a third year from the same uni as you, so I am in the thick of applying for jobs now. I chose Radiography for the love of the career and didn't give a single thought for the job vacancy situation when I worked my ass off for the 92.45 UAC to get in! Despite a few knock backs I still believe that there are jobs out there for the good ones, and I hope someone sees me that way sometime soon. my advice: Different hospitals will put preference on different universities, there is no one "favourite" i.e. Wagga hospital interviewed MOSTLY CSU students (but a few from newy as well!!) attending conferences are stupidly expensive on a poor starving uni students wages but a good place to mingle with the bigwigs, some NPDP scouts make their way there and its a great little addition to your resume. Yes, marks are good, but not the be all and end all Certainly if you dominate subjects, add an "unnofficial transcript" to your resume and use that to sell yourself. Just remember, radiography is as much a people-person job as it is about know-how. best thing to do is to be awesome at your pracs, aim to get good reports (when you get to my stage, you will be scanning them in and bringing them with you to interviews, so make sure they are going to say nice things!) Now, I stumbled upon this forum by googling NPDP jobs, (and procrastinating my last-EVER uni assignment - due on friday) So ill get back to that!! Good luck! xx Do you find this valuable? |
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metal-fan-666 |
8. RE: Australia NPDP
Oct 26 2012, 7:33 PM EDT
I have been hearing this from students for a year or 2 now, that employment positions are tightening up in Australia. It seems to me to be a convergance of factors creating the position.Radiography degrees traditionally had a very high post degree employment rate of close to 100% and some practices could not get a first year graduate to fill their PDY (now NPDP) position. This leads to an increase in student intake, increasing the labour pool. The GFC is likely to have extended the length of time someone was planning to stay in employment thanks to losses in superannuation or even direct investments, decreasing positions opening up. The transition to digital environments allows greater efficiencies and thus greater throughput of patients with the same number of radiographers, meaning for 2 similar departments one film based and one CR/DR based there is likely a decreased need for extra radiographers in the CR/DR based practice. This could be further compunded by global financial uncertainty reducing expansion of services both privately and publicly, decreasing the creation of new positions. The GFC is also likely to have decreased the number of people heading overseas (eg. England) for employment as used to be pretty common, and will probably have brought some over there back home - further increasing the labour pool. It sounds like it might be a tough environment, but there are many professions that are having it much tougher. I had a chat to a medical student recently who said that some hospitals are doing like 20 rounds of applications/offers to get the people they want. Having said all that, there are still positions that will be advertised and they will need to be filled, just now there is a choice for employers allowing them to pick who they want, instead of who's left. I don't think that our current situation is long term, but it may well be if uni's continue to increase intake. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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9. RE: Australia NPDP
Dec 6 2012, 11:38 PM EST
"Hello, i'm a new first year at the University of Newcastle studying diagnostic radiography. I've been hearing a lot of doom and gloom from third years about how it's getting extremely hard to find PDY positions, and they mentioned something about this being due to the introduction of NPDP meaning there's less PDY positions for them.Looking for a job in medical field visit at http://www.globelocums.co.uk Do you find this valuable? |
